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Post by graham03 on May 5, 2016 8:09:28 GMT
I've got a 1980 Toyota Hiace Rio and there are a few parts I would like to get hold of. I've posted up a bit of background under the section 'Your Restoration Projects'. I need to get hold of a spare wheel as soon as possible - I have a damaged alloy after the wheel nuts came loose. My 4 remaining wheels are 185R14 with 5 studs, and as far as I can tell pcd 114.3 mm, off-set et 27 mm. I would also like: The hub cover to go with my alloys; My wheels look like this, but for a spare, the appearance is not particularly important.   If anyone could help, with a sale or advice regarding other vehicles with a suitable type of wheel, I'd be very grateful. Graham |
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Post by oldredcelicabryan on May 6, 2016 0:30:38 GMT
They look like Alloys off a Crown.
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Post by Uncle Bob on May 6, 2016 11:36:50 GMT
Your options are good as the bigger Toyota/Lexus saloons/sport use 5 stud 114.3mm pcd , so 3.0 supra, Crown, Lexus is200/300, Gs300 ,Ls400 but do check centre bore as some are smaller than others  I had a 1982 Toyota crown 2.8 many years ago with the alloys you currently have, I borrowed a 3.0 supra alloy and it fitted on the back but not the front....bearing hud was a few mm to big  |
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Post by graham03 on May 7, 2016 8:58:35 GMT
Thank you for the information and encouragement. I'm searching and sending out requests but not making any progress, as yet.
Any suggestions where I might search / send requests to???
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Post by Uncle Bob on May 7, 2016 12:08:39 GMT
Thank you for the information and encouragement. I'm searching and sending out requests but not making any progress, as yet. Any suggestions where I might search / send requests to??? A look around EBay has come up with a 15" steel wheel it has 5 stud to fit a HiAce , it would be an option as a get you home wheel although best change the tyre with one of the same rolling diameter. Yes it is 15" and yours are 14" but see it like those space saver wheels you see on new cars....it's a get you home wheel .....just an option . |
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Post by Uncle Bob on May 7, 2016 12:14:45 GMT
Quick check of the tyre size on this steel wheel 205/70/15 would be only 2.5% out ...or the correct rolling diameter tyre to suit you current wheels would be a 185/70/15.......hope that makes sence |
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Post by graham03 on May 10, 2016 9:36:35 GMT
Thank you - yes your calculations match mine on the actual running diameter. It hadn't occured to me to follow up on different wheel sizes.
I've contacted the supplier to check the offset. Mine is 27 mm, it changed to 35 sometime after my model, but I don't know when. The supplier doesn't know the date or the offset - yet - he will measure it for me. The crucial thing is there is only 20 mm clearance between wheel and steering top joint and with this wheel being 6.5, he says, instead of 5.5 inch, moving the inside edge .5 inch (12.5 mm) inwards, if the offset is also increased by 8 mm there might be too little or no clearance.
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Post by graham03 on May 10, 2016 13:16:52 GMT
however I can't see any data on there ever being a 6.5 inch width wheel, so he may have this wrong and be selling a 6 inch wheel....
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Post by graham03 on May 10, 2016 15:37:58 GMT
OK... so he tells me the wheel is now 6 inch width and the offset is 5.5 inch cos he thinks its measured from the stud surface to the back of the rim... 'he's always done it like that'.
Now if that's the case, from the stud plate to the centre-line would be his 5.5 inch minus 1/2 x 6 inch wheel width as the distance from backplate to centreline = 2.5 inch = 63 mm - pretty unlikely. If he's measured from the plate to the back of the tyre of 205 mm thickness that would give an offset of 37 mm ... the nearest to that I can see is 35 mm ...
so if I change my 185 on a 5.5 inch rim to his 205 on a 6 inch rim that gives 10 mm less clearance, and the offset is increased from 27 mm to 35 mm = net loss of clearance 18 mm and I'd have to carry a spacer plate of ?? mm. Is this reasonable?
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Post by Uncle Bob on May 13, 2016 11:54:22 GMT
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Post by harvey on May 14, 2016 9:53:01 GMT
Give me a PM . Ive got a steel wheel here off a MS112 Crown
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Post by graham03 on May 17, 2016 16:59:26 GMT
Thank you Harvey - my day has brightened up! PM sent...
I took a risk buying the eBay wheel above - rather against my inclings, suspicions, first judgement. The wheel arrived this morning and measuring the offset of approx 47 mm, I went back to check all the wheel/tyre combinations used on Hiaces - no model is listed with a 5x114.3 psd and an offset greater than 35 mm. Also it has a hub diameter of 60 mm, not the 67.1 mm required to go over the front hubs - and I checked that with him on the phone too.
I'm not very optimistic about getting a complete refund for an item wrongly described, so I may be advertising it for sale myself. It does have a Toyota hub cover and fits a lot more models than the one I was looking for.
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Post by harvey on May 19, 2016 18:32:02 GMT
PM sent will get a pic at the weekend of my wheel
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Post by Uncle Bob on May 19, 2016 20:45:40 GMT
Thank you Harvey - my day has brightened up! PM sent... I took a risk buying the eBay wheel above - rather against my inclings, suspicions, first judgement. The wheel arrived this morning and measuring the offset of approx 47 mm, I went back to check all the wheel/tyre combinations used on Hiaces - no model is listed with a 5x114.3 psd and an offset greater than 35 mm. Also it has a hub diameter of 60 mm, not the 67.1 mm required to go over the front hubs - and I checked that with him on the phone too. I'm not very optimistic about getting a complete refund for an item wrongly described, so I may be advertising it for sale myself. It does have a Toyota hub cover and fits a lot more models than the one I was looking for. That's not good news .....side note have you checked if the wheel fits on the front and the rear ?....if it fits on the rear and you get a puncture on the front you could swap an alloy rear to front . |
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Post by graham03 on May 19, 2016 22:12:56 GMT
Well, I hadn't thought of that. Makes me feel rather dim not to have realised that. I'll see when the rain stops.
Though I am surprised at how difficult it is to remove the front wheels - much more difficult by far than I've ever experienced or heard of. The wheel hub diameter is so tight on the wheel hub - they tighten in on the studs OK but need a lot of help with hammer and wood block, while repeatedly rotating the wheel, to get them off. While the rear wheels don't have any protruding hub to centre the wheel, but rely two smallish bumps on the mounting plate, so the wheels come off easily.
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